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I think it is since we have such a short attention span these days. I think we all need to take an objective look at these again. Read to the end and tell us what you think. Thanks. A major story is breaking in climate science, after hackers posted a 61 megabyte data file on a Russian server that appears to be confidential emails and climate data hacked from the UK Met Office Hadley Centre. The data raises major questions about the role of scientists in what appears to be a deliberate conspiracy to mislead the public: From: Phil Jones To: ray bradley ,firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000 Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org,email@example.com Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm, Once Tim's got a diagram here we'll send that either later today or first thing tomorrow. I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for Fort Stewart land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for Fort Stewart combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998. Thanks for the comments, Ray. Cheers Phil Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email firstname.lastname@example.org If there's an innocent explanation, I'll be interested in hearing it. In the meantime I've sent an email to Phil Jones asking if this email is genuine. For those interested, the large file can be downloaded here [UPDATE, file removed from server. Have decided not to re-link in case some of the new ones around have been modified. I have a copy of the original. You can check out some of the alternative download links at Watts, but checksum the file as per their instructions to ensure it is the original] UPDATE: Am busy on the TGIF deadline so have only generally perused the leaked emails. It appears to be a collection that might have been prepared for a possible FOIA (freedom of information) request and were in the process of being scrutinized. The tone of many is quite waspish, although like others the email above seems too damning to be true. Surely they weren't that stupid to commit such comments to writing back in 1999? UPDATE 2: One of the emails refers to stacking the peer-review process to ensure scientific papers by the likes of NZ's Chris de Freitas don't make it past review into the IPCC's 2007 AR4. The other paper by MM is just garbage – as you knew. De Freitas again. Pielke is also losing all credibility as well by replying to the mad Finn as well – frequently as I see it. I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. K and I will keep them out somehow – even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is ! Shocking. Lends authenticity to the documents as well – a US or European based hacker would not be likely to pluck de Freitas' name out of thin air if they were making something up. UPDATE 3: This email from RealClimate's organ grinders illustrates a deliberate effort to prevent anything too challenging from being allowed on their website: From: "Michael E. Mann" To: Tim Osborn , Keith Briffa Subject: update Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:51:53 -0500 Reply-to: mann@xxx Cc: Gavin Schmidt guys, I see that Science has already gone online w/ the new issue, so we put up the RC post. By now, you've probably read that nasty McIntyre thing. Apparently, he violated the embargo on his website (I don't go there personally, but so I'm informed). Anyway, I wanted you guys to know that you're free to use RC in any way you think would be helpful. Gavin and I are going to be careful about what comments we screen through, and we'll be very careful to answer any questions that come up to any extent we can. On the other hand, you might want to visit the thread and post replies yourself. We can hold comments up in the queue and contact you about whether or not you think they should be screened through or not, and if so, any comments you'd like us to include. You're also welcome to do a followup guest post, etc. think of RC as a resource that is at your disposal to combat any disinformation put forward by the McIntyres of the world. Just let us know. We'll use our best discretion to make sure the skeptics dont'get to use the RC comments as a megaphone… mike
This is clear cut exposure, Dems Libs and Progressive can't handle this type of inner look into their lies and deceit, Sheep read something like this, there not so quick to walk up to the trough of bullshit and eat from the progressive menu. Great going keep it up.
In Soviet Union the people knew Pravda was lies. In America, even though the ratings of the traditional newspaper and TV news sources show clearly that Americans pay very little attention to them any more, (while talk radio ratings soar) there does not exist any mechanism for "public opinion" to make itself felt in the Halls of Power and certainly not in the Universities, which are breeding grounds for propaganda. This lack of a feedback loop allows people like President Obama to continue the mantra of "man made climate change" as though that was the accepted reality. So what We The People have to do is invent a new feedback mechanism so we can regain control of our own government. Certainly the voting booth is noneffective. Who do you expect to re-review the emails? The fraud has already been revealed but it changed nothing.
I've tried several times to answer this question, but yahoo answers keeps giving me a system error page. So I'll try and post my links little by little. --- EDIT 1 ----- I thought there were 4 separate reports that concluded that nothing wrong occurred in the emails. Most we go over this again, or has new evidence arisen since the reports? "Climategate scientists cleared of manipulating data on global warming" Source  FULL review here : Source  ----- EDIT 2 ----- "Mike's Nature Trick" refers to Michael Mann, and the journal "Nature" where he published his paper. Which can be found here (abstract) : Source  I can't post more to this answer it seems.... To answer your question, NO, it is not time to review the emails AGAIN. They've been reviewed, and nothing wrong occurred during the exchange, so in MY opinion it is not necessary.
Even the scientists (real ones) have no idea about the status of our climate. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, some entity has been using geo engineering for years spraying the ionosphere with aluminum, barium, and other particles worldwide although they deny it. There have been reports from all over the world about the grid patterns in the sky which is always explained as contrails from normal fights but what is normal about the same plane flying back and forth, to and fro all day long over the same area? Contrails disappear in a few seconds. Chemtrails linger all day and create an over cast sky. The UN even issued a moratorium to stop this practice last year but it continues. I saw it on a daily basis for several weeks over my county earlier this year. The moratorium was issued because the effects of their activities is unknown and may be harmful to life and may also be irreversible. Who is to say our weird weather isn't due to this practice that has escalated over the past couple of years? They also dump tons and tons of iron into the ocean to cause the algae to bloom which is supposed to soak up C02 but what does it do to the ocean? Bill Gates is even funding some apparatus that is placed in the oceans and sprays shiny particles into the air so the sun reflects back into the sky. Talk about mad scientists. They could be doing irreparable damage to our planet. They are insane.
For the head in the sand snoozer: I do not think ANYONE is denying that the climate is changing. When it snows in the People's Republic of California in late May, The climate is changing. But is it Warming? and is it because of Man's consumption of energy resources? That is what we doubt. Scratch doubt, Refuse to believe. Especially when those promoting the notion, and the recommended fix, have so much to gain by getting you to believe it. Namely, control over your very life. Control energy use AND health-care access, and Kiss Liberty GOODBYE! Funny how it is the same group trying to do both.
Comrades! be sure the grapewinner knows the nature and here in Chablis...the last 10 years have been few warmer: -time to pick up the grapes earlier at least 8 to 12 days! -sugar fructose and sure ratio for gay lussac spirit raise up easy one degree -last 10 years good cropt they cannot complain as usual and the joke is following -bad,bad spring it has frozen in april! -bad the hail destroy the young grapes -bad the leaves are sick with "MILDIOU" a fongus It' too wet to more moisture! but in December the same grapeweinner call at Mercedes garage:did you endly receive my new car?
Why bother? Conservatives already recognized the self-evident B.S. and liberals are incapable of seeing CONFESSED B.S. as faulty.
They have been reviewed, re-reviewed, and then reviewed again. The science behind global warming hasn't changed.
….zzzzZZZZ ….. zzz ZZZ …. ZzzZZZZzzzz ……….zzz..zz. …..zzzzzZZZZ ….. huh? Yeah, yeah the climate’s not changing. Now do you mind if I stick my head back in the sand and go back to sleep?