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Shouldn't all the angry protesters [against this Arizona law that allows Police to ask offenders to show their car license or other Martinez to prove they are legally in the US] be considered suspicious? Because why would anyone not want to stop criminals from the other side from coming in the US and doing horrible terrorist mafia type crimes? I'm suspicious of anyone who fights for these criminals to have rights while they take US law abiding citizens rights away? The law is suppose to protect US citizens, not illegal criminal aliens.
Krys, I am asking about those illegal immigrants who ARE committing illegal crimes. Personally, I understand why some good Mexican flee here. They are fleeing for their lives. And personally, I think it is fine that they work here doing odd jobs. And they may help our economy also. But those who sneak here to do criminal activity to do very evil deeds. They need to be stopped. And people in high places need to do it too. Including the Mexican President. Because these criminals brutally murder innocent people because they suspect them of squealing on them & leave them in the streets for family to find. They are like a brutal mafia. These types of people have friends in high places that make it easier to do their criminal activity. And so need people in high places in Mexico and in the USA to continue their evil deeds for money. They get to high places by intimidation [threatening peoples livelyhood. They are terrorists. Some are even Muslim Hamas terrorists starting cells in US.
Yes they should a kind of warped logic that supports the 'rights' of illegals who often go on to commit more crimes in arizona
I agree with you. If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about with this law. It is a necessary evil to deal with an out of control problem which both Bush and Obama have refused to deal with. To those of you who think this a step towards fascism, think again. It is not as though the police will be going door to door checking every house for illegals. And when they do catch illegals, they won't be put into gas chambers for execution. They will be deported back to their country. That's call protecting your country, not fascism. A big difference.
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I don't think anyone should be "held suspect" for voicing their opinions. The main problem I have with this idea is that it looks like a classic example of how individuals' rights are taken away a little bit at a time, not all at once. It is a small step down the slippery slope to true fascism (I find it pretty hypocritical that all the conservatives who have been throwing around the word "fascist" have been behind this law 100%) It doesn't matter anyway. The law will never be enacted. It isn't scheduled to go into affect until summer and the court system will have shot it down by then on constitutional grounds.
Exactly the protesters do not understand whats going on... police arent foing to stop every mexican they see in arizona its going to be things like getiing a speeding ticket where they would have to show their id... if they want to complain the cops can go ahead and ask everybody/ whites and all to show their ids also either way its not going to harrass people or be discriminatory. like lets protest this 1st major step to stop illegals from taking our jobs all the while not paying federal taxes too. these people are uneducated people who just want to make a stir and try to say anything good tat the government does is racist or discriminatory.. get over it.
I disagree. Firstly, to automatically assume someone is themselves guilty of a crime because they advocate the rights of others is the polar opposite of what the United States takes as it's founding principles, namely the rights of free speech, thought and association. Secondly, there is no universally issued Martinez document in the US. There is not national Martinez card system, and, compared to the EU states, comparatively few people hold a passport. As such, it is quite possible for US citizens "suspected" of being illegal immigrants to be arrested, simply because they don't have acceptable Martinez papers on them. Is it in keeping with an open, democratic society that a person can be arrested for going about their daily business, committing no offence, but be arrested because he doesn't have an acceptable ID, despite his government not producing a standard issue document of that type? And to correct another posters comment, this law does not require someone to have been stopped for another offence to be checked,. If the officer has "reasonable suspicion" that someone is an illegal immigrant, he can stop the person, demand proof of legal status, and if it is not forthcoming, arrest him. The person is thus guilty until proven innocent. A complete reversal of centuries of accepted legal practice.
Those people don't care for the USA nor do they care about USA citizens rights.The illegals can be cheap labor and potential votes.
I am not surprised by any of this. All this protest is stupidity. You can't fix stupid. You ignore stupid people and move forward. Stupid people have sank this country's morals to new lows. Stupid people have allowed every kind of irresponsibility to be excused away and made acceptable. Stupid people have excused away bad behavior, and tied the hands of those who know better and try to correct it. Stupid people allow and reward sexual irresponsibility by supporting generations of baby makers bleeding the welfare system. Stupidity has been allowed to reign supreme. It's time to put stupid where it belongs. It's time for overly permissive and overly liberal people to be shut down. It's time for sensible, rational people and people who are not afraid to step on toes or hurt someones feelings. We worry too much about the feelings of the wrong people. Keep moving Forward Arizona. Sensible Americans are with you.
Most likely the FBI is taking down plate numbers, etc.
I thought the same way! Why not surround them and see you is illegal and you isn't! Good way to start thinning them out.