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We went to war because of the 17 UN violations, the lack of cooperation of Saddam in regards to the UN inspectors, shooting down planes in the no fly zone. He started this when he invaded Kuwait, the coalition backed him off. He had France, Russia and members of the UN on his payroll to steal money from the oil for food program to build his palaces while his people starved. He gassed his own populations, there have been countless of thousands of Iraqis found in mass graves. Pre-War Quotes from Democrats "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998. "Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them." President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998. "Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal."—John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002. "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998. "As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998. "Saddam’s goal … is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed."—Madeline Albright, 1998. "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeleine Albright, Feb 18, 1998. "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999. "(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983"—National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998. "Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement."—Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002. "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."—Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002. "I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out."—Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003. "Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people."—Tom Daschle in 1998. "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001. "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002. "We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002. "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002. "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002. "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003. "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002. "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do." Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002. "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.
In vicious pursuit of the destruction of our president (and possibly our country), some dems would like to forget all this and pretend it didn't happen. They won't even bother to read what you've posted, and will say things like "I didn't read it but the president is the worst ever" or some such nonsense. They prefer catchy rhymes like "Bush lied, soldiers died." The threat was real, regardless of what people prefer to recall. It's sad that some people are so politically motivated, and hate the president so intensely, that they would undermine their own country's security, its respect, and it's reputation solely in order to bring him down.
Generally I agree-the Democrats are really good at doing an "about face" on the issue's that they supported earlier. Only to take the opposite stance for "selfish reasons" from the GOP! And do you ever notice how conveniently this get completely omitted from the New's Media? I don't think that that is a coincidence either! I would love to see someone like-Anne Coulter...throw their hat in the ring! She would have no problem's exposing their Hypocracy...by slamming them by their very own words!!! I would love to see the Semantics of the "Dems" start to flow,when she begins to take a round off their Rosie Red Behind's! Dem's said they are against the "Draft" too,but didn't seem to have a problem voting in favour of it...on a number of occasion's! It's the same kind of Grandstanding that you get when they say "We're for the U.S. Military,but We're against the War" what a cop-out! We have that problem up here in Canada with our Liberal's too! They originally put the Canadian troop's in Afghanistan,and emphasized the importance of the mission. But when Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper,took the helm...suddenly they did the big "flip -flop" and decided that they want the troop's out of Afghanistan A.S.A.P. Some of the usual hardline leftie's,went even so far to demonize our Soldiers...has being even worse than the "Terrorist's" that they were pursueing??? And their current code word for the Harper Government is that they are "Bullie's" but yet his Government has been quite reasonable and objective in its practices. Parliament has never been more orderly,at least not in my 35 years of watching it! I have just had a great deal of amusement...watching the Liberal's oppose a Budget,that mostly benefitted the "Mainstream Canadian's" that they claim they represent? And to make thing's even more amusing...they couldn't properly explain why they were "opposed" to it? Other than to say that...eventually we'll find something wrong! Keep Digging? If the Lib's had any smarts...they'de immediately turf Stephane Dion! Because like alot of "Libs" of his ilk,you could put their Brains in a Tin Cup...and it still wouldn't Rattle! Nuff said! thx. theerrander
Yes, you have put down a reasonable argument that the Democrats are not the answer to our foreign or domestic problems in the United States I will hope that most people do not believe the rhetoric of the Democrats as the Democrats are only good in raising our taxes and promise more entitlements when our country already is about to go bankrupt. More taxes is not the answer to the problems in the United States. The government had to go to war with Iraq to stop the spread of terrorism. If the only superpower does not make a stand against these terrorist...then who will? We know that Europe was one of Iraq's best customers thus the Europeans detested losing such a lucrative customer I am sure that there will be another 911 in the United States and I pray that we don't have another Jimmy Carter who will just say "how terrible" but not do anything to protect his own country. We need strong measures when we are threatened from "any" foreign or domestic enemy.
That is too dang long of a "pulpit" question.. The Dems aren't really copping out, they just hope people will forget that they agreed with the same intelligence reports Bush did until things got bad. They are mad because they lost the last two elections and will do anything to keep him from succeeding. They keep putting time lines in the war funding bill knowing he will veto it. They are trying to make him look like the bad guy because they don't want to fund the troops. And that is the truth. I'm tired of this war too. I would've had it over in a week. As soon as those 4 construction men were shown burnt and hanging from a bridge, I'd have turned that whole town into a glass parking lot. And the devil with what any, ANY person said about it. French, German, Russian, Canadian...whoever. The French wouldn't have done anything to Bin Laden if it was their country that was attacked. The war has been handled wrong, but instead of blocking progress, why don't the Dems help. They say they would've done it better..so what's their plan? They've never given one that didn't involve what was already going on...besides the cut and run option.
It is amazing that the liberals can get away with this. They agreed with Bush in 2003 and certainly didn't want to be on the wrong side of a WMD attack then, and now, they act as if they never thought the same as Bush. Intelligience is rarely going to be perfect in cases such as this before action needs to be taken. Intelligience must be evaluated and analyzed and ultimately, a decision must be made and the consequences weighed against the risk. Almost everyone in 2003 thought the risk justified the action then. We all shared a part in that. Now, the liberals think they can keep playing the "we were so stupid" card forever. Don't they realize that on one hand they are saying that Bush is the dumbest, most incompetent president ever, and on the other hand saying that they were even dumber than him by allowing themselves to be "deceived" by him?
Good Idea, but it won't work, the only think these socialists have to stand on is Bush lied, its bushes fault, I mean really they sound like grade schoolers having an argument. Bush won the election, get over it. And for the constitutionally challenged, Bush cannot run for office again.
Agree cop out and being hateful, crybaby, sore losers after the 2 lost elections 2000 and 2004
No. If a person lies it would only be their responsibility - not deflected on to others. It is the UNs responsibility to rectify the 17 UN violations. The UN did not agree with going to war or that it was even legal to go to war. The U.S. bribed the UN to allow the war.(search keywords "$582 million for back dues to the U. N.") Democrats have wanted stricter guidelines on anti-terrorism for some time (search keywords "Republicans Watered Down 1996 Clinton. Anti-Terrorism Bill"). What they say he 'lied' about is the intelligence that was presented for the conviction that allowed use of military actions instead of political and economical pull (on this particular issue).
They took down two buildings in Fort Hunt and we took down two counties in the middle east. fair trade if you ask me. we didnt start this but we will end it. Democrats Lie and the New York Times swears to it. what a bunch of spoild children, wish they would grow up but thats way to much to ask for. P.S. nobody is going to read all that........
I agree with your statement. To say the U.N. should have dealt with this is crazy too. How many infractions is too many before they act? Also, the U.S. is the U.N. We give them all the money! (Taxpayer money that is!) If we're not fighting the war over there, we will definitely be fighting it here. Personally, I'd rather not seem any of those guys over here! Just my thought! Joe